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Hesh,

They are pretty easy to make and Don has a comprehensive photo-documentary of how to on his website. Craig Holden made them to buy from Don's design but I'm not sure if he still does.

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[QUOTE=Dave White] Colin,

I got mine at Isaac Lord which is just down the road. I used their 150LS one shown here.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Dave.

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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] Does anyone know how to get intouch with Craig?[/QUOTE]


I emailed him last night ... no response yet.

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Hesh -
I have made several for luthier friends although I do not, nor want to do it,
anymore. But, if you cannot get Craig to make you one and you do not want
to build it yourself, let me know and I'll try to accomodate you!

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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] Many thanks Jim! Please let me know if he responds?[/QUOTE]

Will do, Hesh.

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Are plans still available anywhere for building the Williams jig? I have also been considering building one of these. I see we still have pics on the jigs and tools section of this web site, but, I can't seem to find plans anywhere. I might also like to hear from Craig if he is still doing any of these jigs. thanks
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Hi Tom,

Rick Micheletti offers the plans.

Here's the link.

You can get them from him on eBay, or directly from him.

Don Williams39034.7067361111

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Intetresting, I use a similar jig/guide as above in my 7310 and just put the guitar in a dish and rout away. I've never worried about it moving. The 7310 mind you works very well one handed, never used the 310 so can't compare


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here is the website for Micheletti
http://www.michelettiguitars.com/Images/Sales.htm#Binding%20 Jig

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Hesh,

Try using two pipe clamps or 24" bar clamps with your guitar stood on edge. The clamps will provide a wide, sturdy base and you can rout the top and back on one side and then reverse the position and do the other side. It's worked well for me with few problems aside from my own incompetence.. LOL

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I built two binding jigs just like that one years ago ... I use the guitar body vise and simply move the guitar to where I am routing next. I have one jig permanently set for 85 thou binding .. thus its always ready to go, then I set the other one to whatever purf ledge I need.

Hesh ... let me know if you are selling that one .. I or one of my students will GLADLY take it off your hands for cheap (as you put it !!!)

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Hesh...If you can build quality guitars like you have many times over, you can absolutely build the W/F jig.

An unintended consequence I found from starting to build was the joy and satisfaction that came from building jigs. Additionally, it added to my understanding of what makes a great jig design. The ones that have plans are easy compared to building without. Later your confidence will be such that you'll begin tackling your own or improving on others.

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Like JJ said, I find building jigs as much fun as building guitars. The cool thing is that they make guitar building easier once you build the jig too. So it's doubly fun.

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Hesh, the only downside I see with the Williams Jig is that you need a lot of bench space. That's why I went with the Ribbecke Jig. If it hadn't been for the fact that I build archtops I would have gone with the set-up you have (and haven't used as yet).

I can appreciate why some are not comfortable feeding a guitar into a router/jig (same reason I am terrified by router tables). But it works for me. The craddle is really handy for other jobs such as sanding and is virtually child proof as shown below


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[QUOTE=TonyKarol]
Hesh ... let me know if you are selling that one .. I or one of my students will GLADLY take it off your hands for cheap (as you put it !!!)[/QUOTE]

Tony--after you get Hesh's binding jig, mine's available if you or one of your students need another. Just let me know.

Best,

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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] My reluctance to attempt to build it myself is three fold. First the only thing that I have ever made before is a guitar. Second I don't have some of the tools that the jig probably requires so when I have to buy things like a router etc. I am not saving anything by making it myself. Third I don't want any thing to suck my guitar building time. [/QUOTE]

Hesh, the only real reason out of the three you have listed is the last one. Building a guitar is so compicated and intolerant of sloppy work, and you have succeeded beautifully what 12 - 13 times (read I'm envious). As for the tools that you need to build it would be a bandsaw to cut it close and then a router and straight edge to clean it up.
After seeing your guitars, from my point of view, there isn't anything you can't build if you want to. But, as for the third reason, its very valid and I can respect that one.

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Hesh, you do have a guitar vise, don't ya? You already have the router jig that indexes from the sides, why not try it in your guitar vise and do like me and Peter J and do it 1/4th of the guitar at a time in my case or half at a time as in Peter's case?


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